24 A for a-f-o-r-e-f-f-o-r-t-c-a-s-t

In which Harry and Mairead discuss the Pope and questionnaire development.

For more on the Pope/Catholic Church, Harry recommends this BBC guide to the Catholic Church and glossary of Roman Catholic terms.

For more on questionnaire development, Mairead recommends chapter 6 in Conducting Research in Psychology: Measuring the Weight of Smoke by Brett W. Pelham and Hart Blanton.

Our engineer is Nick Shoup.

We’re on instagram @aforeffortcast, with art by Marielle Wall [Instagram, website].

Our music is “Chop Shop (Instrumental)” by White Flowers, and our logo is by ei8htz.